How you can live, lead and work better

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In this Episode of Better People, Better Business, Andrew has a conversation with Kate Billing.


Kate is one of New Zealand’s leading voices on gender equity and leadership development.  Her work focuses on GROWING LEADERSHIP CAPACITY to create the personal and collective resources required to meet the challenges and opportunities of the new reality of life and work.


Her work integrates leadership development, personal development, and leadership wellbeing to create FULLY HUMAN development experiences that better support leaders through a whole-person+whole-life philosophy.


This approach to development enables leaders to become the people they need to and want to be, individually and collectively: people who are examples of what’s possible when we commit to deep levels of authenticity, humanity and responsibility in the ways that we live, lead and work.


Kate’s invitation to all leaders is “Don’t let who you’re being get in the way of who you could become and the work that version of you could do in the world.”


In this conversation, Andrew and Kate talk about their shared love of the language of Better, particularly when it comes to growing capacity so we can become better leaders and better humans.

  • The impact Covid had on how work integrates with our lives and identities – and the significantly different impact it has had on women in senior leadership roles vs men.
  • Why chaos presents the greatest opportunity to do the work on becoming better.
  • Two practical steps you can take to start the work of becoming better in how you work, live and lead.
  • Looking at trends like the great resignation and quiet quitting, and what they really reflect in terms of behaviours and choice.


As Kate says in the podcast, this conversation is an offer to be more curious about what it is to be human, and how you can work, lead and live better. 


You can connect with Kate at – make sure you follow her so you can discover her new website and the new iteration of her practice in 2023.

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We help make businesses better through their people.  We get the job done with expertise in Executive Leadership, Learning and Development, Training and Competency, Operations Management, Technical Writing, Quality Control and Governance.

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